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I don’t know the exact details of the labor agreement but Delta would likely have to replace the 717s with other jets to continue to be able to operate the same ratio of 76 seat aircraft.” Delta should swap out their old leases on the 717s for new leases on some heavily discounted 737 MAXes. By leasing those 717s for Delta pilots to fly, Delta was allowed to increase the number of 76 seat jets subcontracted to Delta Connection carriers. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. Sun Express? This photo is copyright protected and may not be used in any way without proper permission. Economy middle row a legal carry on won’t fit because of low hanging electrical box and aisle seat also can’t fit carryon because the outside seat leg is inset even on the Max 8 being new? Another benefit is DL can send the 717 back overnight while it will take time before the 737 will be flying again an even longer before it is delivered, so an easy way to reduce short term payments and control fleet size. Delta’s chief executive said, “We’re talking to Boeing about lots of different things, the Max included. Sounds to me like somebody put a story out there to try and generate positive news about Boeing. That would massively simplify DL’s fleet which while owned and cheap is expensive to operate. – Older aircraft require more fuel, but since it’s cheap and you can buy into the future (Hello SWA) you can mitigate the cost to save on capex This is an aircraft that has been built but has no airline to go to. “If there is an opportunity where we would feel comfortable acquiring the MAX we’d have no hesitation doing that,” Bastian added. This is more than a rumor heard by a journalist. Boeing 737-800 Aircraft Seat Maps, Specs & Amenities : Delta … I could see the A220-100/300 replacing the 717 and A319s and the 737 Max replacing the few 737-700 (they have 10 I believe), the A320s, the lost MD80/90s and older 737-800s. Delta is doing good business. Best seats in the plane. Leave a like if you enjoyed the video! Expect it to be the 737-801 or 737-8000 or something like that. – The A220’s are already replacing all the Angry Puppies in the fleet (and the 717’s, when the leases were up), which is why they bought the -300, Here’s a biggie: About some 200 are narrow body jets. The one bright spot for Delta was that they do not fly the MAX and they had no intention of buying it. They won’t be delivered for a while, but DL will very likely buy 320NEOs, or 737-8 MAXs. Great. This past January 2019 flights were on Airbus 319 and 320-comfortable seating and good legroom, yay! As Delta CEO Ed Bastian said last year while discussing the company’s strong earnings: “We’ve clearly been a beneficiary, and as long as the Max stays out of the sky, I guess, we’ll continue to be one.”. Delta is reportedly considering ordering 100 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft. Please check your email to confirm your subscription. Boeing 737-900 may accommodate 180 passengers in three classes. During that time, Boeing has lost more than 400 orders. Aviation Photo #6247483 Boeing 737-8EH - Delta Air Lines [ Medium Large] Tweet. Delta owns a higher percentage of their fleet than competitors. After their lousy safety record everyone has been checking the kind of aircraft they are flying. Limited Time Offer: Earn 100,000 Marriott Bonvoy points | Terms Apply. They just need to get that choice. This also means that deliveries can continue. IIRC, they got a lot of the 717s cheap as a result of the Southwest-Air Tran merger and Southwest wanted to remain a single plane fleet rather than keeping Air Tran’s 717s. Not a good move, IMHO. The interior of this aircraft has been outfitted with the modern Boeing Sky Interior (BSI) that features enhanced mood lighting. But customers may be hesitant to fly on one once they know. I’d fly a 737 Max any day. I would love this! They get Boeing to take their outdated 717’s of their hands while agreeing to buy planes that they won’t actually have to take delivery of. You will fly with full aircraft…. Among the “big three” US carriers, Delta has been the only one to not have any Boeing 737 MAX aircraft on order. Stay connected via social media, or subscribe to our free email newsletter for tips on upgrading your travel and maximizing your miles! Very bad decision. Those must be some dirt cheap prices to make that investment now. Seems really hard to believe. The flying public couldn’t care less about the technical issues of the MAX. This photo is copyright protected and may not be used in any way without proper permission. Good luck, I will fly while so I hope you all stay home. All are now part of the five year AOC socialist ekonomik plan. Delta is the only airline from the big three full-service carriers in the US without a Boeing 737 MAX order. Aviation Photo #2187347 Boeing 737-832 - Delta Air Lines [ Medium Large] Tweet. Delta's 737-800 are identified as 73Y or 73H and may be displayed as such on booking itineraries or schedules. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. Crazy idea. Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian said he's confident Boeing will figure out a software fix for the 737 Max jets involved in two crashes that killed 346 people over five months. Your email address will not be published. Don’t get the Boeing cramplanes!!!!!!!!! So most of what I read is just completely people who hate. While I love that little plane, it’s time has come. Now the 737 would be a great replacement for the aging to be retired 320/738/752. Please view our advertising policy page for additional details about our partners. – Fuel prices are at historic, all time lows – with futures (i.e. I used to fly Delta a lot because I was going to the West Coast but now I tend to head in directions better served by American’s Philadelphia hub. Business-wise, I’m sure DL can get the 737 MAX at rock-bottom prices, and that would look good on a balance sheet. Boeing 737 – najpopularniejszy na świecie wąskokadłubowy samolot pasażerski średniego zasięgu, produkowany w wielu wersjach od 1967 (obecna generacja od 1996) przez firmę Boeing w Stanach Zjednoczonych.. Konfiguracja siedzeń to układ „2×3” (dwa rzędy, po trzy siedzenia w rzędzie). Stay informed: Sign up for our daily aviation news digest. People are not dumb enough to board one! As a business traveler, this will kill my home time, so a strong Delta Connection strategy to keep more flights in moderate size cities would be awesome! While Southwest is unsure about the aircraft’s return timeline, American Airlines is gearing up to fly the aircraft in just over a month. On the other hand, this would be a savvy move by Delta if they had inside knowledge that the FAA was going to shut the 737 Max program altogether. If so, then look for the MAX to join their fleet. I will have full confidence that the 737Max will be safe when flying again, as United, Southwest and soon British Airway will be flying the MAX. Would Boeing take the 717s off Delta as soon as the order is confirmed? – Delta ALREADY have some 245 aircraft on order, all with Airbus. Hope their insurance is paid up. The Aviation Heraldreports that a Boeing 737-900 for Delta Air Lines was operating flight DL2049. As the 737 MAX inches toward re-certification, Boeing has a problem on its hand. Delta is the only airline from the big three full-service carriers in the US without a Boeing 737 MAX order. Bastian made the comments to the Financial Times, following the previous speculation that Boeing had approached the US carrier regarding white tail 737 MAX aircraft. A Boeing 737-800 made an emergency landing in Tennessee on Sunday morning. The only aircraft Delta is interested in from Boeing, right now, is the NMA to replace their ageing 757/767 fleet – which Ed Bastian has already come out and said so. Could be an interesting development for Hawaiian. No one is stepping foot on a MAX. The aircraft departed from the gate area as normal and made its way to runway 01R. 2 years ago. Also the seat cushion is only good for about 4 hours before bottoming out, unfortunately my annual winter trip to Puerto Vallarta is over a 5 hour flight. […] In time, the public will look past the MAX’s problems, and it should be a good place in the long run. Up until the COVID-19 pandemic started, that was a huge advantage for the airline, as other airlines have had their 737 MAX fleets grounded since last March. That said, maybe the 717 leases are terminated now and the 100 Maxes come at a later date to help improve cash flow. Boeing will also have to use every hook and crook to keep passengers out of the E195 and the A220 because when they do they’ll discover that “widebody comfort in a regional jet” is not a slogan but a reality. The A220 can take up the 717 routes. Didn’t many of the DL 717 fleet come from the Trans World BK? Talking at Airbus regarding their current book of orders. This next-generation aircraft features 20 First Class recliner seats, 21 Delta Comfort+ seats, and 139 Economy seats. Not safe. While it was reported that Southwest could take some white tail 737 MAX aircraft, this would likely be in the place of so far unbuilt airframes. Now Boeing will be paying more than Embraer is worth, at the same time Boeing’s finances and stock price have crashed. Both American Airlines and United Airlines operate the type, alongside LCC Southwest and Alaska Airlines. 31 aircraft are still on orders and deliveries through 2019. Delta had eight 737-700s in its fleet as of Sept. 13 and the final planes were ferried to storage on Sept. 25. With no outstanding order from Delta, such an order would only come as a win for Boeing. Seat map Boeing 737-900 “Delta Airlines”. Good move. And the 717s were cheap and easy to integrate into existing operations. I’m going to guess what DL will pay for the 737 close to what they paid 717, which is a great deal. As a Delta DM, I have really enjoyed not having to check what type of aircraft I’d be on, since I personally have no interest in flying on a 737 max, no matter what reassurances are provided. Delta won’t be getting the Max’s because they are an airbus focused airline (with the exception of the crazy amount of -900er’s they have). But yet again, Boeing needs the help desperately. You are only concentrating on the “deal” but not worrying about when the Max’s gonna crash. Now is the time to get a MAX cheap. Without them there will be a gap from130x seats to 190. Both planes are very similar, with the 737 being slightly more efficient for shorter flights. Im sure Delta will get a great price with deliveries not for a few years later, and it will help modernize the fleet. Delta Air Lines currently operated 99 twin jet narrow body aircraft Boeing 737-900ER. The CEO of Delta has been spamming my mailbox ever since COVID-19 and this gives me a reason to say something back. Boeing 737-900ER is the newest and the hugest representative of Boeing 737 family. I think this is a smart business decision on both ends. This POS MAX will NEVER fly! Otherwise I see no upside for Delta as they a) will not need more capacity for a while and b) the MAX has a shoddy reputation. Delta Air Lines is among airlines Boeing Co has approached to buy dozens of 737 MAX jets built for clients that have since scrapped their orders or gone bust, two people familiar with the matter said. 737 Max would also work against that potential strategy. Passengers are aware of what happened on the MAX already and won’t forget Boeing’s failures. Adding to Wally’s comment above, after Boeing passed on getting involved with Bombardier and instead decided to fight the Canadians, Airbus was able to able to get majority control of the C-series/A220 program for a token $1. Back during good times, other airlines had to cut capacity due to the 737 MAX being grounded, while Delta didn’t have that problem. He travels about 400,000 miles a year, primarily using miles and points to enhance his first class experiences. Following that, Boeing saw the strategic shift that had just taken place and went to Brazil, where it worked out a deal to acquire 80% of Embraer for $4.2 billion. I see good flights to LA on all-Airbus equipment from JetBlue out of Syracuse, that might be worth some driving or an extra hotel stay to vote for my dollar, and pay a modest amount to vote with my dollars against the 737. If Delta has the money, this could be good, although the industry is going to take years to recover. In an article posted on the Financial Times yesterday, Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian was quoted as saying, “We’re talking to Boeing about lots of different things, the MAX included… If there is an opportunity where we would feel comfortable acquiring the MAX we’d have no hesitation doing that.”. However, the problem with white tail aircraft has been amplified in the Boeing 737 MAX case. Hawaiian? Given the current market, they can park them if need be…. Boeing should have made the NMA to fill the niche that will be opened up for flights that are too busy or long to serve with A220 class airliners, but no they had to make the 737 refresh nobody wanted, try to keep the A220 out of US markets, try to buy out the Embraer E2-Jets at an unfairly low cost. 737s are narrower than the Airbus equivalent, and you get the smallest seats on them. Among the “big three” US carriers, Delta has been the only one to not have any Boeing 737 MAX aircraft on order. Politicians had better plug their ears when Boeing comes around if the U.S. has a chance of being a relevant aircraft manufacturer in the long term. Like it or not, I think it’s a win-win for bothe Delta and Boeing. Delta ordered the Boeing 737-900(ER) three times—100 planes in August 2011, further 20 in December 2015, and 10 more in April 2017. Certainly Chinese airlines will buy as many C919 as it can make but they will offer great financing terms, deals, and bribes to the growth markets in Asia and Africa. Delta Air Lines has retired its final Boeing 737-700 aircraft, sources close to the matter confirmed to AirlineGeeks. We have a saying for fogeys like you….. OK BOOMER! I’d rather see Delta offload their 717s and give more flying to Endeavor/ or Skywest on CRJ900 and ERJ175s. During the takeoff roll, the right-hand engine ingested two geese leading to a high-speed rejected takeoff. Boeing will not be able to win on cost forever. Steve64, any answer that involves predicting the return to normalcy and/or return to normal level of air travel…..ignorant. Never said nobody until you see ULCC from south east asia or eastern europe buying these maxs and selling their flight for $2. Yesterday’s story. Irrelevant. They must have gotten one hell-of-a deal! If fleet expansion isn’t needed, then perhaps it will be time to start retiring some NW A320s (or even DL 737s). Why would DL make a move like that? This flight was operated by one of Delta’s more outdated Boeing 737-800s. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. While the 737-MAX is bad compared to the A321, I think it’s better than the 717. Your other option might be walking, a bike, a car, train. Let us know what you think and why in the comments! Boeing will pay $2.5 billion to settle a Justice Department investigation and admit that employees misled regulators about the safety of its 737 Max aircraft, which suffered two deadly crashes shortly after entering airline service. The advanced-design Next-Generation 737 is the most cost-efficient, reliable and capable single-aisle airplane, featuring a dramatically elevated passenger experience thanks to the new Boeing Sky Interior. Part of the reason Delta operates the 717 is that it allowed them some relief in their scope clause with the air line pilots union (ALPA). Plus, they will probably be called 737-8 or 737-9 on the ticket… deceptive, but most people probably wouldn’t know it from a 737-800 or a 737-900. And sadly, the 737 cabin is just never going to get more comfortable. It would be interesting to see DLs net promoter score difference between the 321s and the 739s. I would never fly on Delta if they use a Max. It all comes down to price of flights. Delta "New Colours" Boeing 737-900ER (N838DN) File Description: Delta 'New Colours' Boeing 737-900ER (N838DN) repaint for the PMDG 737-900 - By Goldstar Textures Offload the unneeded 717s now, take delivery of re-certified (and heavily scrutinized) new 737s in a few years from now, and then [be able to] walk away from the 737s after 10-year leases on those. Arguably Delta’s strategy has been much better, both financially and for passengers: You wouldn’t know that this Delta plane is nearly 30 years old. Delta will be making a mistake if it knowingly plunges into a bad deal. DL can phase out 717s and use new A220s coming on-line to start replacing 717 routes as the economy recovers. Following two fatal crashes, the aircraft has been grounded for 18 months worldwide. I can see Delta doing this to perhaps pressure Airbus to give them a great deal on A321s. It’s always entertaining when reading Max articles & looking at all the Delta fanboi’s in the comments section saying, “AtLeASt DeLtA DoESn’T hAVe ThE 737 maX.”. Looks like Jet Blue might be the last standing. Visit delta.com to learn more. Required fields are marked *. Why the US Congress would encourage American companies to buy a defective and dangerous aircraft (737 MAX) after having bailed out its carriers. Aircraft identified as 73H feature personal Audio Video on Demand entertainment and USB power at every seat. So it’s either the Max or 787’s. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Me only hablo Americano. I for one will never fly in one and if Delta puts them on routes I need to use, I will fly another airline. Personally, I think one of the big upcoming impacts will be that cities with historically 5-7 flights a day will drop to 2 flights a day, making accessibility much harder. Be in the know. Will be fun to watch once the COVID crisis is behind us. Up until the COVID-19 pandemic started, that was a huge advantage for the airline, as other airlines have had their 737 MAX fleets grounded since last March. Delta has no Boeing planes on order and they won’t be acquiring Boeing aircraft anymore. as the 7M8. High speed r… New videos are posted ten times per week! Even if it flies safely (doubtful), nobody will trust it, and secondly the 737 fuselage is narrower than a A320 series anyway, which makes it less comfortable especially in the dense configurations they are using now. (All of this seems less urgent with oil at $12.). You’re spewing nonsense. Did they too take the bailout? Boeing and the airlines will quietly drop the “MAX” moniker before it goes back into service. I believe A220’s fall into the same class of aircraft with the ratio being up to 88 mainline aircraft unlock 70, 76 seat regional jets which have to maintain the save average flight hours per day. This site is for entertainment purposes only. I bet you will never fly personally on the Max as you never know when its gonna dive and die. Well.. Obsolete in an economy and society that MUST shift from the cutthroat ridiculous profit games that LED to the 737 MAX’s development in the first place! Delta is reportedly considering a Boeing 737 MAX order. 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